10 russian warships off uk coast

I dont think Ukraine had control over those ICBMs on their soil, not without modifications to launch control facilities etc. I meant a small number combat troops postured to help the Ukranians defend themselves. You are right. Published: 8:51 ET, Jan 24 2023 A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. Meanwhile, in a show of support for former Soviet republics, Defence Secretary Ben Wallace yesterday visited Latvia. Military analysts said even if it overwhelmed Ukraine's army, which is half the size of its own, Russia could face guerrilla-type resistance, making it hard to hold on to captured territory. When the world is fully and singularly looking at that location. Its a game to stop NATO advancing further east, and a political statement. His views were backed by Labour leader Keir Starmerwho tweeted on Saturday: To protect our values and our security we must be steadfast in our opposition to Russian aggression. We have historically supported the underdog in the face of the invading bully. All vessels travelling through the Bosphorus have to book passage where a Turkish pilot will board to insure safe passage, that includes men of war irrespective of nationality. The BBC said shots were fired and that as many as 20 Russian aircraft were "buzzing" the British ship. That was 4 years ago after the initial push against ISIS was over. Protect their own borders through forward defence. So is his agenda really totally different? Cheers dave , I think our boss were trying too make us look on the bright side I doubt if the Careers office would have stated that when we signed up, And yet, of all the capability gaps, this one worries the RN the least. Criminal in the present circumstances which has been predictable for years that no effort to do so has been made. So many completely underestimate the complexity and difficulties of achieving the kill chain with Anti ship missiles. And you dont have to sink a warship to take it out of the fight. He said the countries were 'united in their resolve' against Russian aggression. Asking whether Australia will sell us a handful of their Block II Harpoons; the practical solution to the (cancelled) interim AShM requirement? 36 minutes ago. Russia summoned the British ambassador in Moscow for a formal diplomatic scolding after the warship breached what the Kremlin says are its territorial waters but which Britain and most of the world say belong to Ukraine. I think youre forgetting the Enhanced Forward Presence incl Canadians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Romainians, Slovaka, Czechs, Danes, Norgies, Albanians, Slovenes, Italians, Germans, French and may have missed one or two just saying like. The Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships around the UK in the last two weeks alone - as Vladimir Putin increases his military presence in British waters. [However] when youre up against a determined opponent on the battlefield you have to go close and personal with your enemy. Royal Navy shadows Russian ships after 'high activity' in Channel Where do they and other countries replace it from? If it doesnt conform to the official line it gets spiked. There is currently another Russian flotilla heading for the Med, this time the flagship cruiser and escort from their Pacific Fleet. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? Sounds like we havent learned any lessons from history! Russian warships in English Channel prompt UK Navy shadowing operation Iranians being bombed at will??? The only time there is a difference, is when a SM is deep, sprinting to a new position. The US CSG in the med training with Italy and Spain no doubt this is positioned close by aswell. AnyRead more , Once again I must say that your assessment is spot on. Royal Navy warship @HMSPortland is tracking Russian guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov and accompanying tanker Kama as they sail in international waters close to the UK. I really cant believe he wants to invade Ukraine. As for unvaccinated drivers not being allowed to cross, well who wouldnt want to keep the chronically stupid out of their country? kill chain is very complex to find, track, and then engage a warship at range that doesnt want to be shot at. Really Ivan ? 'It is the choice of President Putin and the Russians to make, whether they are going to suffer severe economic consequences or not.'. Ah, but at least the Brits flogged off some 60y/o CVR(T)s. good job that idiot trump doesnt have access to the red button or the west would be rubble. Using it just to illustrate how the forward presence of US/Nato forces in Eastern Europe may or may not influence Russian decision making. An analogy would be how the small number of US troops placed in both Syria and Afghanistan deterred attackers until they were removed andlook what follows. As to the vaccine mandate, you are aware of the cross US/Canada border restrictions that came into force today that affect 50% or so drivers and the log jams in US west coast ports? Whats the Latin 50% because decimate is only 1 in 10 (10%). Purely theoretical, but just imagine Putin had deployed military units to Iraq in 2002/2003 as peacekeepers and to secure WMD. How would you like me to paint Corbin and Johnson with the same brush? But do we have the money or willingness in the population to spend what money we have on defence rather than health or social services for example? Under international law of the sea, innocent passage permits a vessel to pass through another state's territorial waters so long as this does not affect its security. I agree that its a risk, but one which they appear to be content to manage.. But T31 isnt designed or intended to be a high end anti submarine Frigate, more a general purpose Frigate for more day to day operations ,anti piracy ect but capable enough to operate as part of a task group. Yes China has been throwing money at increasing the capabilities and sheer size of its military in it race to become the worlds dominant hyper-power. Since then its been regular movements in/out as the Russian military cycled as many as possible through Syria for the experience. Russia is allied with Iran, need I say more. Donald Trump says only he can prevent a Third World War, China sets modest economic growth target of about 5 per cent for 2023, Police granted extra stop-and-search powers after schoolboy stabbed, Prince Harry: A lot of us in Army didnt necessarily agree or disagree with war in Afghanistan, Rishi Sunak to host Coronation Big Lunch at Downing Street, Project Fear authors discussed when to deploy new Covid variant. It depends on the severity of what Russia will do if it invades. The group thinkers on here have no idea of the N2 capabilities of RU and without AsUW the RN is in danger of being decimated before tea time. Apart from Qaswem Soleimmani. Pity we dont have an enormous fleet of attack submarines to take out surface ships. In a meaningful way I mean putting forces on the ground and in the air. Invasion of a NATO state or even probably Sweden Im sure would. Bit long in the tooth-just like David, CR!(says he who is about to turn 73). Unlike the Ukrainians who are, in the main, suffering out in the trench systems with a serious number of dont want to be here conscripts. If you remember in WW2 GERMANY wanted to invade us, and we used means of blow up tanks etc to deter them. Who do you think got impeached by the US House for trying to compromise Zelensky? EDIT spelling corrections. In theory . Just been channel hooping with various News outlets and what I can gather is that the Ukrainian public are just getting on normal Living , it would seem that the 24hr News channels are too blame for the So called tensions just like a certain plot for a James Bond movie with Johnathan Pryce as the TV mogul who wants too start a War for Ratings. 'Grateful for [US's] political & security support. When we need European Allies like France and Germany, where are they. Hi Robert. An interesting question is how much does Kremlin insider Klyushin being in US custody have to do with the escalation? Sheer incompetence being the only major navy in the world to not have AsUW capability beyond a 4.5 pea shooter. All it takes is for 1 to get through! Using missiles at that close a range in very crowded waters would be crazy. Thats an oversight. I think youll find the Poles really ramping up, unlike us Brits who have more horses than tanks, the Poles have superannuated their winged hussars moumts and morphed onto modern MBTs. That was not my point: NATO has antied up and put boots on the ground, who are prepared to fight. I think ill have a drink now. But they need to be postured in way that showed the West meant business. Which it now seems were there to pick up gear to take out of the Baltic, not across it. Certainly, if small, but it isnt going to be sinking any frigates or destroyers let alone a cruiser many of which are being fitted with anti shell or missile weapons. 'He emphasized the United States unwavering commitment to Ukraines sovereignty and territorial integrity and reiterated the principle of nothing about Ukraine, without Ukraine.'. The US Debt and How It Got So Big Updated December 30, 2021, https://www.thebalance.com/the-u-s-debt-and-how-it-got-so-big-3305778, i bet tyne sent shivers through the russian group. ", READ MORE: Russian doctors urge Putin to 'stop abusing' Alexei Navalny, Maintaining maritime situational awareness is a core task for #NATO Standing Maritime Groups, in close coordination with Allies. The conclusion was that Tiger stood the better chance due to her 6 turret being mostly electrically powered rather than hydraulic, like Blakes, so the presumption was shed be more reliable. Its the bowl of gruel and the slice of old bread that really makes it all worthwhile. Chechen warlord 'seriously ill' but refuses to call Russian doctors over 'poison' fears Ramzan Kadyrov is the leader of Chechnya and a close confidant of Vladimir Putin During the last 2 years lots of HGV drivers left the profession, as happens every year. if 25% could actually get out of harbour before breaking down! Our carriers will only come intoRead more . Europe must now start taking this threat seriously, re-arm and be prepared to fight. "There is nothing unusual here: it is commonplace, but this time the ship is equipped with the latest hypersonic rocket system Zircon, which has no match. 'This of course would be the most costly economically, politically and in terms of human lives and that's probably why it's least likely,' Melvin said of an all-out invasion. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. The British Army for starters needs a serious shake up and recapitalisation. lol. We printed something like 45 billion sterling to deal with the pandemic yet fail to commit to proper spending to save our own planet. Whilst we (NATO) wont be firing shots, theres a massive amount that can be done with regards to intelligence and weapon supply that, arguably should have been done a month ago. I see a German Navy Chief had to resign tonight, for making pro Russian comments. Certainly surprised Germany seems so acquiescent about potentially putting itself back on the front line with only Poland as that buffer again. Turkey's Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu said on Saturday that the death toll in Turkey from last month's massive earthquakes has to 45,968. Ammunition depots. Or perhaps NATOs drive eastwards since the fall of communism might just be giving them sleepless nights! Commander Ed Moss-Ward, HMS Portland's commanding officer, said: "Escorting warships in UK territorial waters and the adjacent sea areas is routine activity for the Royal Navy. The trick is to sort the rubbish and the facts, with good journalism there is always some good Intel to be gleaned. It can be logically assumed that KALIBR capability willRead more . 'Also, if he just occupies the eastern regions he will never be able to take back the whole of Ukraine because of the inevitable strengthening of Ukrainian forces in the remainder of the country in the aftermath. This is howRead more , Thats reassuring.Thanks. HMSs Dragon and Defender never had Harpoon fitted. No Typhoons in Romania at present, but USAF F-15Es there. whats next a russian build up around the baltic straits?or the chinese off tiawan? That was due to the unusually large number of landing craft in the Baltic. Thomas C. D'Arcy, encountered a formation of seven Chinese and Russian warships in the Bering Sea last month. Because I dont have anybody living on the USA/Canada so I dont know the situation. Russian warships seen acting unusually off Irish coast If Biden was was standing up to Putin hed use some of that military grunt they have. Likewise the presence of Nato tripwire forces might just persuade Russian planners to step back. When you consider bang for buck (price index), how long until Chinas defense budget alone will be equal? The task group were joined by RAF Typhoon and F-35s jets, plus tankers RFA Tideforce and RFA Tiderace. 'Our view is this is an extremely dangerous situation,' said White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki. But more significantly, the conclusion was the Belgrano would have been pummelled by the sheer weight of accurate fire that both Blake and Tiger could put down. True , I seem to remember one the OSINT Bunker pod cast guys saying if they start to move Air assets near the Ukraine border than probably the war is on , they have just done that. The deployment was cited in Ukraine's intelligence report which said Belarus 'should be considered as a full-fledged theater of operations that Russia can use to expand aggression against Ukraine.'. Final talks on NI post-Brexit deal as UK PM meets EU chief - No 10. If a shooting war were to start, the Astutes would be at sea ready to start shooting, its what they are for, granted we dont have enough of them, a situation that wont be rectified until SSN(R) comes of the pipeline at the earliest. I think you overestimated Russias economy Ivan , its smaller than that nutty economy of Italys lol. And it will be forthcoming if I am wrong as I hope yours will be in reverse. Not sitting, looks like hes on his way to Moscow to have a quiet chat with Sergei Shoigu. Morning Sean. During its 2008 war with Georgia, Russia bristled at U.S. warships operating in the Black Sea, and in April the United States cancelled the deployment of two warships to the area. The volume of gas supplyable through Nordstream 2 is roughly equivalent to the entire energy use of UK or another large European country. Hope you dont mind but Ive sent your comment to HQ, should be worth a raise. I stand by my comments and time will tell. A distraction for poor ratings at home possibly. Next time round-Hillary Clinton vsRead more , Grandpa Biden has been engaged with the Pentagon bigwigs and was informed that Troops had already been pulled out of Vietnam .Now have your 40 winks and Cocoa, You cant blame Trump for this. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-03/kremlin-insider-klyushin-is-said-to-have-2016-hack-details. Trump was an idiot and poor president. Giving his annual speech to the Royal United Services Institute, the Defence chief said: They are flexing their muscles in our own back yard with an ostentation they have not displayed since the Cold War. Pity we didnt keep developing the 6 system fitted to Tiger and Blake? Several European nations have now moved to bolster Natos military deployment in eastern Europe. Would tend to agree with you Graham, to what end does Putin need to invade Ukraine? 'Russia invaded territory in the Crimea, ginned up a conflict in eastern Ukraine, and has systematically sought to undermine and divide Ukraines democracy,' Blinken said. Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. Surely you mean the Syrians? "These are Ukrainian waters and it was entirely right to use them to go from A to B," Johnson said. This is why US UKRead more . But the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK, Vadym Prystaiko, called on extra help from Western powers. The Sentinel 2 satellite image, taken at 11:47 local time, shows at least 14 vessels. Moscow has announced the 'successful' completion of tests on its Kinzhal - or Dagger - hypersonic missiles, which can carry nuclear or conventional weapons with a range of 1,250 miles, in the Arctic, though the weapons had been deployed with Russian forces ahead of the trials. Hope the Turks can hold them up over their passage through the straights and send Putins timetable skew-whiff. Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. Its possible if Putin gets really aggressive it could unite the US to someRead more . In a hastily arranged trip, Secretary of State Antony Blinken was set to arrive in Kiev last night to meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. It is a show of force and plans for a possible invasion. Again, your assessment that putting 2,000 US troops into Ukraine before the status quo has changed, would not have detered 100,000+ troops amassing on the border or the worldwideRead more . A 4 ship of F35s could put 36 missiles into the target area from over 100km away with the advantage of stealth. Ireland tells Russia live-fire naval exercise is 'not welcome' The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. Not sure how I forgot to put Estonia in my answer. In comments that will alarm Kiev, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said her country needs 'a reliable Russia' to supply Europe with gas. Genuine question did Ukraine have 100% complete control of the USSR nuclear weapons that had been stationed in its territory? This was to determine if the resurrected Blake and Tiger would stand a chance against the Belgrano, if they actually faced off. UK politicians have been cutting our forces (numerically) once or twice a decade since the end of the Korean War, ie over the last 70 years, not just the last 30 years. Most of these incidents were blamed by Iran on Israel. He wasnt kissing his backside so much when he scrapped the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty! That basically, means the UK has signalled that it is disengaging from effective land operations in a NATO context. Ukraine didnt invent the weapons so im curious how much of them they could have used and ultimately maintained over time. Russian warships spotted off British coast - British Navy responds Yep 100%. It was purely a theoretical consideration . But Russia? As for the numbers unvaccinated, I know Putins trolls have been stoking that fire with conspiracy theories about the vaccines. Ryabkov, referring to Moscow's version of events in which a Russian aircraft bombed the path of the British destroyer, said that in future bombs would be sent "not only in its path, but also on target.". Coast Guard releases video of Russian ships in Hawaii waters Correction. By "The Royal Navy will always uphold international law and will not accept unlawful interference with innocent passage," Wallace said. Well they didnt of course and no sympathy was deserved . I think most would agree Trump was a very poor President and Joe Biden has not covered himself in glory. He would have stolen a march under US noses, scored a propaganda victory, brought Iraq under Russian influence and probably have prevented the 2003 invasion. To all and intents you could be correct, but heres the rub he is a dictator in all but name. Working hard for your Master Putin, Hay! Russian Warships Shelling Towns Near Odesa as Naval Activity Increasers The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along. Anti-air systems appear to be a weakness for Ukraine which might be something that the US should focusRead more . Trump isnt the president now, its Biden. You underestimate the Russian bear at your peril! Helicopters for the littoral, Nuclear boats for larger vessels. Astutes dont need to surface to receive Comms, they are more then capable of receiving them whilst deep. Merkel should not have abandoned Germanys nuclear power generation capability, and become so reliant on Russian gas. Mr Prystaiko also slammed Berlin for pushing ahead with the controversial Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline that will circumvent Ukraine. So we should of ordered NSM after all, as interim? You can read more here. The combat readiness of your fighting units degrade, morale becomes a problem and your armour becomes less effective as maintaince for war becomes a problem. But why would Russia deployed troops in Iraq 2003 to save Despot Sadams skin? We have got troops there, albeit only a small number in a training and advisory role still complicates the plot for Putin. Unfortunately we are in a poor starting position militarily, as is most of NATO if things escalate. ', After their meeting, State Department spokesman Ned Price warned the West was ready to impose 'crippling costs on Russias economy' if Putin chooses the path of 'further aggression.'. The finger of suspicion immediately fell on Russia, although Ukrainian officials said critical infrastructure had not been targeted. If Biden had the balls he could put a small contingent of US troops in Ukraine and dare Putin to attack. It seems Not! 2014-2021 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. REUTERS/Sergey Smolentsev. The Iranians are being bombed at will. Who is bombing the Iranians? Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCGUfuk(A-591), was officially commissioned into service at Istanbul Shipyard in Tuzla, Istanbul, on 14 January, smail Demir, head of Turkeys Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), has announced. And even 2 or 3 Astute boats would give any fleet a serious headache. No-one will be able to fight back in an all in war today. On Monday, two C-17 transporters left the UK with 2,000 armour-piercing missile systems and soldiers to teach Ukraine's forces how to use them. Thats if of the few Astutes we have arent already chasing their own Oscars or Yasen. Rocks?' Access unmatched financial data, news and content in a highly-customised workflow experience on desktop, web and mobile. HITLER AND NAPOLEON DID AND LOOK WHERE IT GOT THEM. pic.twitter.com/NDzRz2MwqU, Ministry of Defence (@DefenceHQ) January 21, 2022. One of Russia's newest, most advanced warships - the Admiral Gorshkov - docked in Havana some 90 miles from the southern tip of Florida, amid Russia's warnings to the U.S. about deploying missiles near Russia, the Associated Press reported Monday. Try it too often, find work elsewhere. Not training troops. But then we are talking about a Govt that is all style (and what style that is these days judging by the No.10 makeover) over remote substance and my do those Type 45s look smart and mean when they are out on the water especially when they have a dragon on the bow though Boris would probably add flock wallpaper as camaflage. No warning shots had been fired and no bombs had been dropped in the path of the Royal Navy destroyer Defender, it said. Type 23 frigate HMS Northumberland, based at Devonport, watched the movements of Udaloy-class destroyer the Vice-Admiral Kulakov as it sailed north-west of the Outer Hebrides. Exact date yellow weather warning for snow and ice forecast to hit UK - will you be affected? The rest of Ukraine is a sovereign state and fully independent of anyone. Hi Ron. and The big question is-could this conflict once started, and if NATO do get involved, be limited to a conventional battle? Who do you think signed the peace deal with the Taliban you delusional fool? Ooops! Actually, its an interesting point. View our online Press Pack. I am generally centrist and an issues rather than party man and had high hopes for Biden. The phrase, and derivatives of the phrase . Patrol ship HMS Severn was on duty in the English Channel and Dover Strait, where it shadowed a surfaced Kilo-class submarine, the Stary Oskol, the corvette Boikiy, patrol ship Vasiliy Bykov and support ships. The explosion inside an oxygen factory in the town of Bandar-e Mahshahr, south of Tehran. Defence forces monitor Russian warships off Irish coast This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. Putin is serious about sabre-rattling and applying miitary pressure. The N Koreans are starving again. Putin has been blowing smoke about NATO having significant forces in countries bordering Russia, but really they are minimal. 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