Im not from a scheduled caste myself.however I feel sorry for those whom are born in to a system which they dont deserve. 91. Doesnt matter what caste you are, it is all man made. Hinduism is a man made religion which is totally fake. sita shunted out of house by raja ramchander , was given shelter by dalit maharishi vamiki who earliar was hunter. List of Scheduled Castes in Uttar Pradesh. Jatts cannot rest until they find out what caste another sikh belongs to. Maharaja ranjit singh was a sandhu. They are only using the Guru Granth Sahib Ji for earning money. There are no specific gods, no specific way of worship . Waghmare. Abhi to napi hai muthi bhar jameen hamne, Kisi real me needy k liye wo seats chhode. In the scheme of the caste system the shudras were the servants or slaves of the system.. All the leading great countries of the world that have progressed have had revolutions in their country by the the lower masses, eg Great Britain, France, Russia, China, America etc. What abt sarangals?? surname sehgal is actually sehjal in reality. Alot of last names here especially sandhu are not chamar or takhan. : Banke Chamar is freedom fighter and Rebellion of 1857 first independence revolt of India. I am only Rajput not a chamar. Please reply l want jathere 1.Sahai, 2.walia in punjab. This is suggestion to Mr. Anand who wanted to add his surname . Revolt Now! Paaji most sikh chamar do not attend guru ravidas temples in England because they are a pro Dera Ballan, hence they have their own Nishan Sahib and jakara. The fact is even in your village some choorey and chamaars will have same surname not because they are want to pass off as higher caste but because the reality is that is their surname, whether you or anybody else like it or not. Bhikhmangi caste maang maang ke khate ho salo haha :p ek tum jiske paida hue vo pandat group me aaya krta tere alle palle kuch nahi tu bullydog jaise mooh ka khudko bada samajhne laga sahi batau to tum jo aise bolte tumhare jaise gareebo pe hota kuch nahi caste pe uchelte ho, chamar pe har banda islie jalta haii tum kahi bhi jaao aj kal aage chamar betha milta hai badi badi seat pe uske aage jhukna padta tumhe unko salute thokna padta chamar ko namaste krni padti haii :p vernaa tum ho kya ek apne aap me badepann k alawa *kaam maang k khana *aaj bhi wahi poorabi chhotti soch tum anpadh logo ki *hamare jitni padhai nahi ker pae tum back paisa approach sab kuch hone k bawjood! I agree with you 100%! Jatt & Chamar are best of friends and live side by side, we follow same religion, we have same colour skin and blood lol, we are humans end of the day. Please contribute to this website to improve the quality and allow for it to expand and grow. Like the particular UN55B8000, it even offers a Content material Bhagat Ravidas, Bhagat Kabir and Bhagat Namdev started foundation of Sikhism. It is you who will go to hell as in Gods house intolerance is decided on earth, as in LOVE, FORGIVENESS, AND UNDERSTANDING. sANJAY singh. Ghande toh inshan k avgun hote hai. I m a chamr. you are literate, can read the newspaper would screw women(who might have been from your caste as well)) Now who is FOOLING and DISHONEST? my surname lagah..plz add this surname.jai guru ravidaas. hi to everyone, it very good that we should disclose our surname (ghotra), because surname is our identity, so please add your surname to your First name and help other people of our caste to add surname as well. What does pure chamar means ? why ayyub pandit of jammu who was lynched was muslim because pandit is purely bramhans, why bhatti chaudhary chavhaan are muslim ?? Sikh chamar only have Singh & Kaur. Why cannot they just accept they have another Sikh brother in their presence. Pora taan maan rakho guru di shana da thank u navneet kumar ji we have to strengthen our community by encouraging them. yes you are right, Chamar community people changing their surname, hiding their caste, so please dont change surname. My stepmother is a maan and she is from Ramghriya tribe. Bunch of fudu lok, who think that they are superior just because they are jatt and others are chamar. Rawal means "king," and is derived from the Sanskrit word "Raja" with the same meaning. agaey ana he to kya hunaar nhi chahiye sirf jaat k naam se sab k uper baitho? The spelling variants are Shastri and Sastri. But yes things are changing rapidly. Ham toh rajput hai hamare pass kayee safe sadhan tha background achha hai hamare sath bhedbhav bhi no hota . These rivers were JHELUM, SATLUJ, GANGES, NARMADA, GODAVRI , KRISHNA-KAUVERI and BRAHAM PUTRA. Toori. Dabi surname belong to Rajputana. Pundit is only the teacher who know sashtra or any specific knowledge. Every day he touchs the shoes and he does not mind getting poluted. I have seen people with lots of lands and money, still they take benefits of their reserved caste. He should update his knowledge from my statement. These words are expected only from Just Animal Type (JAT) people since you do not know about your race whether it from Hoon, Kushan, Mangol or Turk. my name is Gourav Kamal. mindset never agrees to facts but lame people must need caste support - high brahman , low akstreya , lower vaisya , lowest sudra who are 80% that was the reason the greatest indian of the century said born hindu not fault but not to die hindu so converted to budhism which doest believe in castes . FACE IT, YOU ARE BORN AS UNTOUCHABLES, SCHEDULED CASTE FOR THE EVIL KARMAS WHICH YOU ARE STILL CONTINUING WITH BY TELLING LIES TO PEOPLE AND STEALING THEIR SURNAMES. The One Lord gives shade to all beings. It is in this context that one finds similar or same sub castes among all erstwhile sudras . [15] For example, around 1910, U.B.S. Jatts ignorance and arrogance gets the better of them., Question for the Jatt contributors. Never heard of it. I WANT TO A GOOD SURENMAE FOR ME . Chamars were never Hindu, The ones that claim they are Hindu is because their families have no knowledge of religion. Abe namunne 1970 ki ishvi me paida hue old insaan hai kya tu. Chamarde ka Bana insaan ko he Chaamar kehetein hain. Mere sale, tujh se ziada beakal shayad hi koi ho. Media again contolled by largely the Brahmins and its associates.Culture You only have to look at the India film industry, arts, music etc virtually controlled and heavily influenced by the Brahmins and their assciates. The struggle isnt over, there are still hurdles we must overcome. Lahane. Jai Guru Ravidas. When will the Indian slaves revolt. Why waste your time by being rude to others because religion doesnt teach that. Hi Im from Malaysia, Chamars are very proud people and rightly so. Thank you, my friend for telling the truth, that what blinded us, as Sikh we cant even recognized, our own brothers ( 5 piare consisted different cast ). pehle galti agar upper caste ki thi to usse 100 gunagalti aaj hum log kar rahee he samaaj k sath . punia chamar produced many officer & this will be processed untill end. Its a shame in your gurdwara they dont teach you your history . Aside from that, i would like to once again agree with the lady in condemning this feed ( as i did earlier) as it is promoting the caste system. Jin logo ne saare sansaar me ashuddhi failaa di zaat paat k saath? add ralmil surname of chamar , its found in doaba .and have jathere at panjour village hoshiarpur. But people from the same caste who have already used tge reservation system n become something in their career dont let the seats ro b used by other needy people of their own caste They can let their children use the gen category caste and leave those seats for some needy sc st. Tina Dabi and such people are worse example among that. This is happening in my village, there are many cases and you find CHOOREY CHAMAARS not cleaning the toilets but breeding like rats with higher caste piples. mamta im feeling you, bhaiya i have all of them last names and i really think they should be included yaaaar. Summan At the heart of hinduism is caste. Question is not against the reservation but question is the SC/ST/OBC candidate who got selected in top job having salary/package more than 10lack than what facility/environment they can not provide to their children which other General Caste children of all including poor got but SC/ST/OBC all officer/rich family children still getting resrvation. are all Brahmin last names. Im sorry, but I will not. I am not a Chamar but I am SC (which means scheduled caste). it is also one of the common surname in ravidasia. my name is manjeet kaur pal . Biggest problem with weaker sections is that instead of retaliating they start crying. but overall average they considered hard worker, brave and open hearted . Tq. I have been reading your exchange with that coward who does not understand Sikhism and caste. Jatav Veer Mahasabha, an association of Jatav men founded in 1917, published multiple pamphlets making such claims in the first half of the 20th century. Too much wishful thinking imho. When the shudras/untouchables wakes up and revolts against Brahminism/Manuism, Brahminism will end. [59], This article is about the Indian caste. Its not like all people are using other caste surnames! say with full self respect that I am A chamar. Jatts talk about heritage because that is their way of saying that they dont believe in caste but they believe in their heritage. Shri Guru Ravidass Maharaj Ki Jai! Oi Rani, lay off the pang, makin up some bull, believe me we got sanity unlike u lot in ur little mud huts, sen some of u touch tatti n goha n act like its nuthin. Garhshanker, Satinder Singh Janagal Kairay gotra ke jathere kahan hai koi bata skta hai kya plzzzz its vry urgent, Ghoter bare jankari wadia ha par tusi OK ghoter bhul gae Bhoondpal ja pal. mar jao is gall nalu saly waddy sekh, Jattan ne thodi maa nu thokya te tussi hoye aj jattan nu abbu kehna chad ditta tussi It is just work, no one is better than anyone. Gande rehte hoo nahate nahi hoo. Understood. We come alone and will go alone. I also very much agree with your closing remarks. If all chamars took Amrit we would be equals. N HIS MOTHER BORN FROM BRAHMIN MOTHER JAT FATHER WHO WAS PROFF. Sandhu is another of those names. Ahir, Yadav 12011/68/93-BCC(C) dt. sir, many Surnames are still to be added, for example my grandmothers surname is Punia, my mothers surname Tundwal, My aunts surname Gora, My Surname Chhachhiye, My Friends Surname Kheechi, Grover, Lamba, Koundal___ & many more, anybody can you tell me khokhra caste belongs to which caste like they are sc/obc/general, Bcoz I m khokhra so want to know, plz Rpl me, jai Guru Ravidass g hey buddy i think you got some wrong surname in this community.Even I belong this community but still i searched a lot about some jat names like sandhu,sidhu,chawla,chopra,bhatti,saraoand johal whosoever you are but you are taking them wrong as they belong to jatt sikh. We came from a womens womb so did you.Do you have milk in your veins and we have blood. The fallacy of the caste system. The brahmin/ higher caste are much more corrupted compared to the Sudras / Ati Sudras. What is there in your surname , surname is not a bloodline it is a tribal name. Why are you spreading false information walia are rajputs and jatts not chamar bhen ke lode tu chamar hai sabko chamar bnayega kya? His name is Nohrya Mall. chamars are kings of Indiapheron be to iserali jati ko bye gulam bnaye rakhaIndians were slaves of mugula then of Englishmen they are powerfull people and I am my own I need you help asap. Kuku movment Hotkar.kharatmol.sadafule. Br a good human first. Im proud beeing Chammar, but I also think that we have to live and love to all, cast Its a name that represents us, the most important thing is be human, a good human. The Chamars are as Indian citizens as you are. sure name hatane se kuch nhi hoga. teri ma ki sale teri kya bahan ko talak dediya ? Chamar also use verma,kardam,nim,varun etc.. Jai guru dav jai guru ravi das mahraj ki jai ho, that why we are sikhs Guru Ravidass Shakti Amar Rahe, Bassan surname is Ramgarhia, jathere at pind Chama near Tanda, Jila Hoshiarpur, but as people in this world are so knowledgeable, anything can be stated and taken as gospel. there are 2 reasons behind this, 1; why to tell the caste to others and 2; i can know the ideas of other people towards our caste. I think ravidassia needs to promote what ravidass wanted not its own agenda. actually caste system divide us. population as at tJiBn atlon of POpufo 0 the last census of the Scheduled Castes or, as the case may be, of Scheduled . do believe in castism but till a limit. after facing extremist hindu,muslims,britishers,etc but we remain so rigid towards our caste.so now no worry to tell our caste because we r our pure form from where our ancestors was thereJAI GURUDEV JAI BHEEM. Let me tell you something today belonging to a caste is totally irrelevant because these castes were made to organize the society and run the economy by sticking people to a certain profession. Bruuuuah! It portrays an image of drinking, guns, half-naked women, flash cars etc. Does that make me your sisters husband?. Its homes or broken homes they were born into, Sad but true. However she has been extremely rude in the way in which she has pointed out that our community talk about caste a lot. I am from an agricultural background, tharkan are from a carpenting background, chamar are from a cobbling background. Kya tandon chamar ka naam hota h i am tandon kya me chamar hu. Jatt dont mention caste??! Ranga, I am yet to meet any Momis who are Chamar and would be interested to meet any that claim to be. Not too difficult to comprehend is it??? The Brahmins have divided them into so many castes and sub castes that they do not get on with each other and dont unite and therefore do not pose a challeng to the Brahmincal rule or the system they have created. according to past and present time we can see warrior skills and bravery in jatt race . Read Manusimriti. we belong to most emerging caste .chamar produced i.a.s.,i.p.s. Dont hear SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI just listen In reference to villages of Rohtas and Bhojpur district of Bihar, prevalence of a practice was revealed, in which it was obligatory for the women of Chamar and Dusadh community to have contact with house work with their Rajput landlord and these Dalit often implicate the other form of oppression which was inflicted on them was disallowing them to walk on the pathways and draw water from the wells, which belonged to Rajputs. Wadhe. It is promoting the caste system with all its ugliness. At least our Bhagats & Gurus had made a good example of how sikhs should be like, caste was non existent amongst them yet Hindus tried everything possible to put them down, embarrass them, even to the point to hurt them. and bal bassan heer summan virk also jatt names. My sandhu surname mistake many. A powerful online presence will spread our message. pls add People can change there name to anything. Ahirwar, Mandrah, Waxer, Minote, Pahade, Baghel, Choukhe, Piple, Chouria. reservation is a right ok. or bhai vo sarkar esliue nahi de rhi ki koi ehsaan kar rhi ho lowerclass people par. if u r not chamar while u r saying that it is proudly thats good dear. Only them we will build India according to the blueprint of the Indian constitution, a secular society built in the foundations of liberty,equality and fratenity. MOST OF SUDRA W/MEN SNATCHED away BY ABOVE DWIJYAS . When they get abused in return like Ay rabidas tu jayada ****** mat kar, etc , then it becomes demeaning for GURU RAVIDAS JI. Mehra A lot of chamars from Haryana are Grow. Jehda akh karr sadi aan shaan utte.. ISWAR SINGH IPS H KURUKSHETRA SE VO CHAMAR H PUNJAB POLICE MEIN H I ll be really thankful if u ll answer my query..plz make it fast its really urgent ..please, yes,NAR is a sub caste of chamars. Religious and social ceremonies practised in poor societies and tribals are different from claimed to be of Hindus. Surname ki list se koi farq nhi padta .. Bebaqoofo kabhi naam bhi sune h inn sab casto ke.. apne aados pados me.. ,, caste system ke liye jab bhi koi aandolan ho jaise kal huya mayawati pr galat comment se toh kuch jagaho pe ralliya nakali gayi ussi tarah tum bhi logo ko ekjut karke railliya nikalo shakti pardarshan karo rajneeeti me jao bhag lo aur jeeto logo ko jawab dena sikho. What has happened in the past or what is still happening is due to ignorance and lack of humanity and a failure of succesive Indian governments lacking the political will to eradicate caste . It really shouldnt matter what caste you belong too. te nale hun asi apne aap nu kattar chamar dasde aa. This is backwards as hell, it wont be abolished. But my dad is jatt.. Our surname is kailey.. All they still think of us as lowly creatures born only to work under them. Read your shashtras and you will understand the procedures adopted. they started to work as labourers n movig ABROAD for livelihood to europe middle east austrelia usa canada n so on . But i find nothing , so i have confusion that is this belong to chamar caste. Some adopted the surnames of their villages such as Gill and Rai, originally Jatt surnames, or close derivatives such as Shergill and Kalirai . SO GOTRA IS IMPORTANT NOT CASTE . I m chamar.vil. IGP Bureucracy jammu PHQ (IPS) shri gareeb das kaith, : Its display quality is far more dazzling, though, with dark levels This comment is illegal to post. Hi, I am looking for a chamar girl for my brother, 28years old. However, when very low caste sikhs migrated to countries such as the US, Canada and the UK, they thought of it as a chance to start a clean slate where people would not be able to identify their caste. please include more chamars surnames like: Bassan, Loach, Choor, Karloopia, Shivgotra, Bangotra, Kalsi, Angural, Thapa, Dabi, Dalia, Attri, Dhupad, Langeh. A lot of Chamar names are same as Brahman and Jats. Ambedkar; however, he remained an aberration in a party dominated by the upper castes. From Tere bahan ka yar, Ek khuddar Chamar. I am chamar but when cumming to US I use Bhatia. And todays farmers were only Siris or agricultural labourers who used to work on the land of landlords or jagirdaars who used to be Mughals , rajputs or other ruling clans . Kash does not know nor understand the reasons why reservation was enshrined in the Indian constitution, by the Father and Chief Architect of the Indian constitution, Dr BR Ambedkar, the most and best educated person in India at the time, approved by Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and Jawhar Lal Nehru amongst others and finally by the Indian Parliament in 1952. Meet surname is not in the list. 4. Punjab National Bank, The Scheduled Castes make up about 16.6 percent of the population of India (according to the 2011 census). sorry it is as not simple as you thought. Ancient books on Indian culture, religion do not have a mention of the word HINDU. Some examples of prevailign mindset are : Born of the feet of Brahma, if a shudra speaks harshly to Brahmin, Kshatriya or Vaish, the king should get his tongue cut. You make out as if she should be rewarded for marrying a chamar! If you want your page to have any sort of credibillity then sort it out. Heloomenu koi das sakdaaj sikh dharam d population 2 crore de kol aa aa..te hindu dharam d82 crore aa..ravidasiyaa chamars.d populationsikha ch ondi aa ya hindua ch??????????? Educate yourselves people in the fall of empires kingdom and dynasties people from scheduled casts had no real identities (surnames). many dalit people sacrifice their lives for sikh religion not only jatts. police ki naukari mili pura systm barbad . just read about him . In conditions of on-line, it supplies four HDMI inputs i hope all chamar should work hard to become no. By keeping the shudras divided by all sort of means they would never rise to challenge the Brahmin hemegony. Our parents have taught us well lol. Ricky you need to get your facts right by doing research as to why this has happened. Shri late jat yamla ji. Thakare. Ranga thus clan / gotras in differrant communities brahmins kshtris n others r common . Be proud to be Sikh. From what i can see you have condemned many people on this feed for using inappropriate and vulger remarks, but you have decided to defend this lady simply because she married a chamar. All major national political parties have their leaders as Brahmins, whether be it the congress, the BJP , the communists etc .
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