Mobile homes are built as a single engineered unit. I want to move the stove to the middle of the kitchen and build an island around it. Scope Construct framed walls using advanced framing details like using the minimum amount of wall studs permitted by code to reduce thermal bridging and allow more space for insulation. OSB, or oriented strand board (a composite panel similar to plywood) is up a whopping 152%, from $170 a year ago to $428 currently. I was wondering if there was a quick way to find out where the wires are. I find that difficult because repair people tend to work in a very limited area and there is no way for me to hear about them. And if the last twenty years are any indication of what the next twenty are going to be like hold on to your hats. Do you know what caused the tear and if the problem has been fixed? Whats my best fix short of major construction? Finally the 2nd exterior wall is lowered and fastened into place. Do you have a idea for me it would be helpful thanks! This is the point where some critical management decisions get made. Another question i have been meaning to ask is how vapour permeable is plaster and lath, these days i doubt it matters but if i ever do the exterior insulation (if i win the lottery first) it might become relevant. 05-08-2017, 05:50 AM #3. The new roof extends over both the trailer and the addition. We are in the process of possibly buying a newly built home. Photograph 4: Waltrop HouseGermany, 1400, wattle-and-daub infill panels with an exposed timber frame. If a couple of tires go at once and the frame hits the ground, it can be bent, making future leveling impossible. Mobile Homes built before 1976 were constructed to much lower standards than those built later. The trailer has many add one already.rexPaulI think a wall section will spread the weight out so it is not a problem. Even the ancestry of the Dutch name ties in with Dutch and Danish settlements in East Anglia (the aforementioned Norfolk, Suffolk). If you made them wide enough to span the distance between the joists you could be sure the weight was distributed & well supported. . RogerIs it impractical to try to take a single wide frame and build from that?PaulI doubt the numbers would pencil out. You will have much better luck looking at the architectural style or, as most towns in Ontario have very good archives, checking for references to it or it's neighbours there. The homes were moved by teams of horses. The cost to build with 2x6 is also high and at a minimum adds $2,149.90 to the cost of the build, even more if you upgrade your insulation. We plan to put them along the wall in our living room. According to a local insulation company, the cost difference between installing R-15 to R-21 is $.25 sq/ft. So is this a common problem? The next series in this installment is Insulation Pricing- A Complete Guide. Im wondering if this is possible without a center post and if so how much of a header or beam do I need? Hes tried everything we can think of replaced the bolts and washers ; moved the toilet so it didnt touch the wall; put sealant on washers it still LEAKS!! In addition, some homes built between 1967? This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. That means a contractor who does that kind of work has to bid higher. During transport the bumps, vibration, and other forces twist and torque the homes and frequently crack panels, loosen connections etc. Home . I am hoping to hang something from the ceiling of my 1997 Fleetwood mobile home. Wood frame walls are pretty impressive technological creations. If the ceiling is to be textured, it is picked up and moved to a spray/paint area where someone can walk around under it and apply the coating(s). It was not a water control layer. If you dont have a tester of some kind bring a small lamp with you and check EVERY outlet with it. The humidifier was removed with the old furnace, but is the cause the crawlspace caused ACH (its closed but not airtight to the rest of the house) or is there some other method that humidity is being stripped? Specify 24-inch on-center for 2x6 wall framing rather than 16-inch on-center 2x4 wall framing. I have a 1986 D/W. 2023 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. wired into place. 2x6 construction homeimprovementdiva 13 years ago What is better 16 O.C. These bonuses are also frequently tied to attendance to avoid problems resulting from absenteeism on Mondays and Fridays. Floors. The plan to plan variation is not great and anyone who has worked at the factory for more than a few weeks has all the variations memorized. Someone uses a router to cut notches into all the exterior wall studs and wire for the wall outlets is stapled in these notches. G.LeeMy son had a 1992 single wide set up on my parents farm, which I bought to live in it while I cared for aging parents. ft Im a little worried that the glue will not last long and assuming this is how all the ceilings were put together.PaulHi Ashley,I wouldnt worry about it.They build the walls & and ceilings on a large jig that means the assembler just lays the wood in the marked places and nails/screws them together. Horizontal timber (or log) construction was introduced to North America by the French; as such it is not a distinct New World technology. Think about it, we did not change the I-Codes to require building paper for all houses until after 2000 less than a decade ago. Her roof is leaking. Should it be.PaulLeave it the way it came from the factory. Lumber used for framing rose at rates from 46% to 65%. The 2x6 itself costs more, and it costs more for the door frames being a non common size (jambs are typically made for a 2x4 stud wall). They got wet and they dried. I have been an HVAC installer, insulation company owner, HERS Rater, BPI Building Analyst trainer and energy auditor. Cut the 4 x 4 to a length that makes a tight fit between the top of the block and the bottom of the wall. Id like to put it in the vault of the ceiling. A wind zone map that might be helpful. The weight of the safe is spread over 5 square feet. Pargeting is often referred to as the decorative relief in the plaster itself. of Housing and Urban Development). The weight will be directly over the I beams which is good.I dont know what sort of feet come on pool tables but if you wanted to distribute the weight you might consider putting down some plywood squares under the table. A. DwightI have a 1992 14 x 70 mobile home and it has the factory metal roof. If this is to be a metal roof, there is no decking and a large roll of metal is unrolled over the house. That low caps a nine-month decline in lumber prices . Your thoughts on how to transfer to a mobile home from metal frame to house foundation would be much appreciated and a major financial help if it can reasonably be accomplished. If this happens and is not corrected, the walls have voids which are going to reduce the efficiency of the heating and cooling systems. It's a good idea to know the size of the framing in your house. Mobile Home HumorContinue, Effective complaining about mobile home problems requires knowledge. I recently had a puddle of water on my kitchen floor under the window. He has autism and would greatly benefit from having one. At the same time, the plumbing people are installing showers and tubs and the cabinet and mirror people are fastening their things in place. Mobile Homes built before 1976 were constructed to much lower standards than those built later. Thank you.PaulHi Faith,I wouldnt worry about it. 271. I'm going to guess that the heyday for brick foundations was 1890 to 1935. I just recently modeled a 2200 sq/ft house with a 2-car garage, lets call it the McCabe Residence, in the energy modeling software REM Design. Artificial Wood is a composite material made using wood byproducts, such as wood chips or sawdust, and . To understand this we need to look both at the plank infill and the other stuff used as infill. Thanks for any input.PaulI dont know. Using approved software, make your proposed design house use the same or less energy than a reference house. "Was there a time when brick foundation walls were in general use or is that also variable?". Their job is to figure out the cheapest ways to meet, but not exceed the HUD standards. It was fairly common for older wood-framed buildings to have siding installed directly on the studs, without any intervening sheathing. Good thinking about where to place it.Paul. Is there? Rough sawn boards would have been a common interior finish for such a building. Polyurethane spray foam insulation was considered one of the greatest advancements in home insulation. The modern round wire nails began replacing square cut nails shortly before 1900. My question is would the ceiling support this much added weight, in your opinion? Sometimes lime is added to increase workability, flexibility and increase water vapor permeability. And our electric rates are some of the lowest in the country and our climate is fairly mild, particularly compared to yours. You should ask your builder to get a copy of the Super Good Cents standards. How long has it been since the last rent increase? so I wouldnt recommend it.If you do decide to cut an opening into the ceiling of a closet or other hidden space I would suggest attaching a strong cord to the trap. Additionally, the ceiling is lowered onto the home and fastened in place with metal straps. The frame wall is undergoing another revolution (okay, it just seems that way because not much has changed in 150 years) - a 2x6 frame at 24-inch centers and single top and bottom plates is likely to replace the conventional 2x4 frame. Check out this link (http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/it/1999/4/1999_4_50.shtml). That study can be found at. The history of construction is as old as the history of humanity. Holes have already been cut in these sheets for the water and drain line penetrations. Leaving the timber frame exposed was eventually found to be a bad idea when the timber frame moved it further cracked the infill wattle-and-daub panels as it lead to more water entry. She is especially concerned about damage to the electical system.PaulI think this is getting beyond what a homeowner should try on their own. Then, if the house is getting a shingle roof, plywood or OSB decking is nailed over the trusses. The home is almost worthless if it has be be moved.Especially if you have some handyman skills, many of these problems are not that difficult or expensive to fix. That is a simple payback of 52 years. Alan, How much weight could the ceiling bear.PaulBad idea (Using the ceiling). Use of the term varies with geography and age. Like the floor, pre-cut studs are laid out on a jig and nailed in place. Guest #11 03-29-2002, 01:49 AM Re: 2x6 walls? I work on cabins that are built from 1900 to the present which go from full size lumber to mid size to todays standard size. Good luck. Im surprised the thing is still standing. When this happens, they are no longer able to seal out the water and will often leak. Lets look at some insulation options relative to a baseline of 2x4 with R-15 batt: The cost to build with 2x4 prescriptively is extremely high, adding up to $6,264 in costs. The term clapboards comes from the Dutch klaphout (klappen, to split, crack). Any suggestions for me EdPaulHi Edward,Ill have to admit that when looking at older homes I could never see any significant difference between brands.Water damage is the biggest hidden problem. $1.95 sq/ft- 2x4 construction, 1 exterior foam board and R-13 cavity. Up and down saws leave straight lines nearly perpendicular to the board. RexaI want to put up an interior wall to make two rooms from one. Just for fun, I have attached a list of the defects a new homeowner might want to check for before accepting delivery of their home. If you have lots of wood available to you, why use wattle-and-daub infill? If things get rushed, materials are badly warped, and the overhangs get trimmed with a router, the edge of the home may look like a snake. I own one myself and would like your opinion on how often to re-level my 1492 sq. OSB, even thin sheets, has to be substantially heavier than metal.Take a look at this link An Inexpensive Metal Roof You Can Install Yourself. Now you have me wondering if the weight of a fully tiled shower stall is comparable to the original tub filled with water? This is my first time living in a Mobile home so please forgive my ignorance in this question: I would like to have a party here but am unsure how many people I can invite because of the extra weight on the floor in the main area (front room, kitchen). I have located where one of the center beams runs and will locate the safe over the beam near the middle of the trailor. Did water get under it, was the soil not properly compacted, etc. Many plasters were applied with elaborate decorative patterns. It would make sense in some of the circumstances she describes.If you have the skills & energy, I think your efforts would be much more rewarded & rewarding if you applied them to a handyman stite built home. Traps have been set. Mobile homes have to cope with water beds, pianos, etc. My question is ,Am I adding to much weight to this home.It was built in 1983(?). The following description is for a single-wide factory. It is not in good shape, so I am wanting to gut it completely down to its metal shell and studs and remodel the inside completely. The use of pre-fabrication goes back over a hundred years. Your chances of recovering any of your investment are zero.I have heard from people in special circumstances where it made sense. It is just the 3/8 wall board, probably 2 x 3 studs and then 1/4 foam board and then my vinyl siding. We simply use 1"x6" lumber to frame around the door. I think it is just what Im looking for. 1.1: What Is OSB? The work is routine, fast-paced, and physically demanding. Ill buy all of this except for the part that the clapboards weatherboarding idea originated in New England. $1.00 sq/ft- Insulate with R-21 fibrous material. CasondraI have a 1972 Norris single wide mobile home. Can it be cut out?PaulHi Dena,Your question is getting deeper into structural engineering than I am comfortable trying to answer. if you want a power boat without wood at all, there are many now using engineered stringers or stringer tubs. Home is in excellent condition. Click to reveal The decking is covered with tar paper and shingled. Common Residential Design Mistakes That Were Actually Built, https://uwaterloo.ca/heritage-resources-centre/sites/ca.heritage-resources-centre/files/uploads/files/heritage_resources_centre_architectural_styles_guide_reduced.pdf, A Proposed Solution to the Embodied Carbon Problem, A Look at State Premiers New Heat Pump Water Heater, Indoor Air Quality and Building Diagnostics. Hammer in wedges to force the sagging wall parts upward. AlisonMatt, Im wanting to do the same thing. By the beginnings of the 20th century the wood frame wall pretty much looks familiar to many of us. That is NOT a place you want to experience.Paul, KaraHi there! This is likely to be the industry standard in the next decade. Our Privacy PolicyEditorial Policies and Conditions of Use, Building Performance and Enclosure Consulting, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stave_church, http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/it/1999/4/1999_4_50.shtml, BSD-007: Historical Development of the Building Enclosure, BSI-035: We Need To Do It Different This Time, BSD-042: Historical Development of the Building Enclosure, BSD-112: Building Science for Strawbale Buildings. Some builders say that they HAVE to be 2x6 for insulation and strength purposes. Get more support under the addition and make sure it is tight against the house wall but dont expect the wall to support any kind of load. It is fastened at one end and then stretched from the other. The 5/16" thickness used to be the most popular measurement for Paper On Gypsum (POG) wallboards, but the majority of new Clayton homes with POG wallboards are now 3/8". Sits on Jacks that sit on dirt. just not sure. ruler, just measure the thickness of the exterior wall at any door or window opening. Is there any way to get a second opinion? Faster and cheaper? Use tab to navigate through the menu items. I really appreciate the fast reply. 2x4 construction: $3.00 sq/ft- 2x4 construction and use 3" of closed cell foam in the cavity. And for us more progressive folks I see a much greater thickness of exterior insulating sheathing and a hybrid cavity fill an R-50 wall. Do you hear any gurgling noises?Depending on how agile you are, wear coveralls and bring a powerful flashlight so you can get under the home and look around. In America, the first mobile homes were built in the 1870s. To keep the posts from rotting it was found that you could support them on stones and from there it was found the posts could be supported on a raised sill frame resting on lots of stones and from there we got rubble foundations. Roofing. Over time the wattle disappeared but the stucco stayed. Why cant we build with 2x4? Floors are solid. This technology pre-dates the Greeks and Egyptians. I have about a a 12X12 tear in my floor insulation, of course, under my ac ducting. Sometimes the hitch was welded on so skirting around it would be much cheaper than removing it. TomPaul,I hope youre still around. Examine any unfinished exterior wall in the basement or in a closet and measure the width of the studs. Disappointed about the 2 vertical supports from the ceiling to the roof about 30 from the outside will More fink supports in the trusses would be stronger.After a strong storm I had replaced the single sheet of sheet metal roof (actually strips crimped together) with 26 gauge -5 rib metal. I can take hours under neath taking pics, notes, tearing out walls, ceilings. Photograph 3: Wattle-and-DaubThis is a timber frame house in Wales, United Kingdom, with the wattle-and-daub exposed. Homes that are not quite ready to ship will back up in the yard. loriHii have a 1979 1468 mobile home with a metal roof. Insert a straight edge into the gap as far as it will go and note the measurement on the stud framing the door or window. Not much changed until spray foams became popular in the 1990s. Floors is an industry term meaning 1 single-wide or 1/2 of a doublewide. Answer (1 of 4): If you know how to use a simple measuring stick a.k.a. You can look at the pdf for wind rules and anything else you might want to see. Virtually all of the homes we build have 2x6 exterior walls, one we are about to start is a 7,000 sq. JonaThanks for your reply, sadly I dont have that kind of space available. The total difference in cost to build your house with 2x6 exterior construction vs 2x4 is $2,149.90. Is there a safe way to access the attic area to look for damage. PaulHi Paul; I want to add a 30x16 porch to a 12x65 trailer, will the outside wall sustain the roofweight or should Iuse 44 under the 2x6x30 board?PaulDont add ANY weight to the home! Have you ever heard of this before?PaulIm coming up blank on this one. but others don't think it's a necessary upgrade. So, the main reason this design passed is the cooling load was lower than the increase in the heating load, not by much, but it was lower. It is remarkably solidextremely heavy the movers had said. The wire that was coiled in the belly is pulled through these sleeves and up into the walls of the home. The ceiling or wall panels are then set in place.So you end up with a solid bead of glue the entire width of the 2 x 4 that runs from one end to the other.I have heard complaints about what a chore it is to remove all the old glue, but never that the glue joint has failedPaul, LeeDear Paul,Trying to help a friend who has a 1982 Marlette, 1470. Complete Mobile Home Codes - 2022. Is there any water in the A/C ducts? Perhaps test it in one room and watch it for problems? george and the dragon filming locations; when did 2x6 construction start in canada. I have no affiliation with any product manufacturer and I am not getting paid for this series. The home otherwise looks good and is on its own land, but not permanent foundation. I was wondering if I could just attach light weight bead board to the 22s (I assume thats whats in there! Some saging of sheetrock ceiling -no cracks. Note the weaving of the wattle. Q. The marks of a larger circular saw will look nearly straight on a small board but will run across at a noticeable angle.. (if you get snow). And it gives extra room in the walls for insulation, plumbing pipes and electrical fixtures. Back To Top. And am I supposed to put plastic on the dirt under my trailor? Nails used to be made by hand by smiths. Five or six people can do all this in an hour or less. #11. However, they represent two distinct evolutionary branches but with a common ancestor. At the same time the floor is getting nailed down, the exterior and interior walls are being assembled. Pay particular attention along the walls and any place there is a roof penetration. teriI have a neighbor that has a 1974 mobile home with a rubber roof that he cant stop the leaks so he is putting on a shingled roof with joists every 2 ft. Will the side walls hold this much weight?PaulWho knows? Copyright 1997-2023, buildingscience.com Corporation Last winter with the 80% furnace it was using indoor air and the humidity was at 30% and i had a hell of a time trying to raise it (i gave up), but with the new furnace i have had 50% humidity till about -10C and at -20C i am down to 30% (i get shocks every time i leave the computer). The temptation will be to ship them anyhow. Thats what a thousand years of evolution will get you. Early on I was a creationist,1 now I am an evolutionist. It is faster and cheaper to build and it provides a 5.5-inch cavity for insulation rather than a 3.5 inch cavity. The safe weighs 500 pounds and will end up being 600 pounds fully loaded. The end walls are fastened into place and interior walls placed. https://uwaterloo.ca/heritage-resources-centre/sites/ca.heritage-resources-centre/files/uploads/files/heritage_resources_centre_architectural_styles_guide_reduced.pdf. This adds the additional thickness needed for the door frame. I am in Alaska, so also intend to put vertical 2 x 4s in the interior walls, and insulate the hell out of this place!! Alan, Warranty repairs require huge amounts of travel time, and things that would have been simple to fix during construction are much more difficult to handle. I live in a very old house in Ontario Canada and its built with actual 2x4s, i have no idea how old the house is so im hoping to get some idea by finding out when 2x4s were shrunk and assuming the house was built before that. It is the 2x6 stud, usually 8ft long, which are used for framing the exterior walls around the whole house. Look around the refrigerator for water damage from the condensation pan overflowing or a problem with the water dispenser connections.Turn on the water to the tub and sink, let it run for a minute or two and then flush the toilet two or three times. On smaller less expensive worker cottages there is often no board sheathing and no building paper just the clapboards. Drivers occasionally rub against traffic signs etc. reassuring words for boyfriend. Other tips on age. Conclusion Newer manufactured homes that conform to HUD standards put in place in 1976 will provide a home that is built to weather the test of time. It is on concrete pillarsPaulIs that feet or inches? We live in CT and are going to have a modular home built. are cut and the electrical boxes installed. It may be well worth it, depending on your needs and where you live. He argues that balloon framing has its origins in maison en boulin construction a type of French Missouri construction used in towns along the Mississippi River. So mobile homes sold in much of Florida will have to meet the highest standards of wind resistance. I was told this happened because of the weight of the drywall.Today I reinforced the exterior perimeter with 44s every 4 feet to maybe help combat this from going further. WillPaulYes, I think the weight is getting out of hand and you are asking for more problems.Keep in mind that mobile home manufacturers have engineers on staff full time. After running this model through REMDesign replacing all the R-15 walls with R-21 walls, the total energy savings are $41 per year. Based on these standards, a 6x6-inch nominal lumber board is actually 5 x 5 inches. The changes were effective on November 7, 2016. If you will have to hire all the work done, it will get expensive fast.I hope this doesnt come across as totally negative. Trim strips can cover a multitude of things quickly and cheaply. Look at the ceiling for evidence of water stains. We have the recommended number of jack posts installed. Image via CupofSpring on AdobeStock. The most prominent area is in the kitchen. The main panel box is installed and breakers, etc. A collection of one thousand construction details organized by climate and house part. It also lead to the introduction of layers of horizontally installed boards thicker than the clapboards - called sheathing all for the purpose of supporting the clapboards. But in the last two hundred years we have been on a real tear. The function of the house wrap in this wall assembly is both rainwater control and a contribution to the assembly air tightness. wood-frame construction 8 Jan 2009 146/2009 Revisions: structural requirements for 5 and 6 storey wood-frame construction 3 April 2009 22/2009 Revisions: adaptable housing 3 Sep 2009 322/2009 Revisions: geotechnical slope stability regulations and seismic 22 Dec 2009 45/2010 Revisions: amendment of Code 23 Feb 2010 March 4, 2022. 54.173.119.173 Certainly, a house with a brick foundation was built before World War II. When building your dream house, there are various opinions on 2x6 construction. If the grooves are seated properly and care is taken to make sure the panels are lined up before they are nailed in place, the materials themselves produce nice straight edges. I have replaced floors because of this. I have not pursued it seriously, i could spend time at the library going over very old records and maybe find some historians but thats a lot of effort which i don't really want to go through. It produces a structurally sounder frame and thus a stronger house. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. The wall frames were often infilled with vertical planks along with a whole bunch of other stuff. I am havingtrouble with the kitchen sink drain. It became the most common type of wood-frame construction from about 1890 until around the late 1930s and is found throughout the entire US. We didnt build this. Allan, Could you post a picture? Authority: 42 U.S.C. We have a very large collection of books that are placed in teak bookcases which are also very heavy. What if you opened the trap and worked on the nearby lines?Your diswasher comment bothers me a little. Past water or drain leaks frequently make the insulation so heavy it tears through the belly material and you can see it hanging down. Mobile homes are built to handle snow loads and other stresses, so there may be enough strength to do what you plan, especially since what you describe spreads out the load.It may not apply in your case, but many mobile home owners dont realize the walls are supported on outriggers which are not designed to hold extra weight either. The Norwegians and Swedes are well known for their vertical board-and-batten siding the origins of which can be directly traced back to their ancient stave churches (Photograph 1). It appears it may have been custom or a higher end home, as it has framing that meets residential code, i.e., 3/4-inch plywood flooring, 24 framing on 16-inch centers, heavy insulation, etc.
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